Dispute #281

Court Start Date Dispute Status Current Period Time remaining End Date
Curation 2020-07-12 02:00 Already Ruled Execution Already Ruled 2020-08-04 03:36
Arbitrable Creator

Unique Votes in all the rounds

Yes No Refuse to arbitrate Pending
1 16 0 0

Round 0

Yes No Refuse to arbitrate Pending
1 2 0 0
Round 0 Vote Casting Date
Yes 2020-07-18 02:26
No 2020-07-18 14:42
No 2020-07-18 23:52

Round 1

Yes No Refuse to arbitrate Pending
0 7 0 0
Round 1 Vote Casting Date
No 2020-07-21 16:49
No 2020-07-22 18:08
No 2020-07-22 13:39
No 2020-07-22 13:39
No 2020-07-21 16:22
No 2020-07-21 20:23
No 2020-07-22 04:09

Round 2

Yes No Refuse to arbitrate Pending
0 15 0 0
Round 2 Vote Casting Date
No 2020-07-30 15:26
No 2020-07-26 12:04
No 2020-07-26 05:28
No 2020-07-24 18:24
No 2020-07-26 01:05
No 2020-07-26 01:05
No 2020-07-26 01:05
No 2020-07-24 18:47
No 2020-07-24 16:27
No 2020-07-24 18:24
No 2020-07-25 04:21
No 2020-07-26 04:26
No 2020-07-24 16:17
No 2020-07-24 16:17
No 2020-07-24 16:17


Evidences provided by Vagarish

Evidence #1:

RED HERRING "A red herring is something that misleads or distracts from a relevant or important question. It may be either a logical fallacy or a literary device that leads readers or audiences toward a false conclusion."

Evidence #2:

Facts and upholding rules One cannot dismiss listing rules because submitter had clearly not carefully read them before making his submission. It was submitter's responsibility to submit his meme according to listing criteria. Jurors have to assess cases upon facts and rules, and not upon speculation of what were submitter's potential intentions. Otherwise, we would lose equity. So again, submitter should push a fresh submission of his meme while respecting rules. Meanwhile, this submission should be refused.

Evidence #3:

Rules Violation The submitter is intent upon misleading the jury. The rules are VERY explicit. Please view my attachment. The rules state that submissions "should not be....mainly fake interactions" and say the following: "Reject: The submitter paid for views of its YouTube video." This submitter has plain as day paid in crypto to a bot service to get fake interactions. This is a rules violation and whether or not the meme qualifies otherwise is a red herring argument

Evidence #4:

Fake Interactions If memes need no interactions to qualify why did you paid for fake interactions? Rules are really simple and submitter used @cctip_io for fake interactions.

Evidence #5:

Challenge Rebuttal II The submission is the meme. The tweet is the medium to share the meme. We do not apply the 'fake interaction' criterion on the medium. Fake interactions only apply for submissions that uses 'interactions' as a metric to qualify. Memes need no interactions to qualify. This is clearly the intent of the policy.

Evidence #6:

"should not be ... mainly fake interactions" The rules clearly state that it should NOT be mainly fake interactions. Whether the meme itself qualifies does not matter. The submission's interactions are mainly fake - it is transparent and plainly shown in the tweet that the interactions were paid for. This violates the very explicit rules.

Evidence #7:

Challenge Rebuttal Meme submissions do not require interactions. It is obvious that the "Has mainly fake interactions" criterion is there to deter malicious submissions to qualify for the "shared across social networks by a few users" or "has a small audience on the platform it is posted" criterions. If a direct link to a meme picture can qualify, it only makes sense that a tweet of said picture would also qualify, paid interactions or not. I'd even argue that the usage of cctip.io is proof of good faith, that the submitter is willing to pay to share the word (which is the whole point of the storytelling campaign), even when it's clear that it's not required. It's not in the spirit of the court to punish the submitter and it will reflect bad on Kleros' reputation if it happens.

Evidence #8:

Reviewing facts One has to carefully read list rules before submitting anything. By using CCTIP, submitter blatantly ignored/missed the rule that explicitly says that you cannot buy/use fake interactions. If submitter wanted to propose a meme only, I encourage him to do so safely by following the criteria and by doing a fresh submission with a sole link to the Meme. Meanwhile, this submission should be refused.

Evidence #9:

Who cares if some interactions are suspicious because the meme condition is met There is no point in rejecting a meme by looking into interactions, although they might be suspicious, when the meme is eligible *alone*. See, this submission title is about a "Meme", which is hosted here: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcmTFNKXoAE6o4N?format=jpg&name=large The restriction on fake interactions makes sense if there is a condition on minimum interactions. In those cases, as long as the minimum of interactions (in this case 0 for a meme, not 5 for any other image) is not mainly fake, it should be enough for acceptance. Any post can be subject to suspicious interactions or attacks for rejection (third-party interference was reported in the Kleros juror chat). Cctip was used in good faith, based on a DeversiFi's positive thought of it (screenshot submitted before), and it would be unfair to reject the meme altogether, or even reject there were at least 50 authentic views (stats submitted before) by just assuming they are mainly fake. This submission should be added.

Evidence #10:

mainly fake interactions mainly fake interactions Watch retweets Many bots without subscribers or just a few https://twitter.com/cryptoselfmemes/status/1281717342561546246/retweets

Evidence #11:

Memes require no interactions and the interactions are mainly unpaid Dear Jurors: 1) “Accept submissions that: … Are memes related to DeversiFi or its ecosystem.” Memes alone without a requirement on interactions are eligible. They have a long life of impact because of replication. 2) Although not necessary, only 5 retweets were rewarded with DOGE out of fun and for initial diffusion. The meme has more than the double of 5 RTs, so it would not be “mainly fake interactions”. By the way, Ben at DeversiFi has said “I think cctip.io is fine”: https://ibb.co/fGM3spV 3) The meme was printed way more than 50 times, so it may qualify under that condition too. Such impressed: https://ibb.co/kBpNZrz Submitted much respectfully.

Evidence #12:

Challenge Justification Submissions shouldn't be made of mainly fake interactions. ex: "Reject: The submitter paid for views of its YouTube video." The tweet uses @cctip_io service, which distributes reward to users that interact with the tweet, which is akin to paid interactions.
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