Dispute #264

Court Start Date Dispute Status Current Period Time remaining End Date
Curation 2020-07-12 01:42 Already Ruled Execution Already Ruled 2020-08-01 07:49
Arbitrable Creator

Unique Votes in all the rounds

Yes No Refuse to arbitrate Pending
2 7 0 0

Round 0

Yes No Refuse to arbitrate Pending
1 2 0 0
Round 0 Vote Casting Date
Yes 2020-07-18 02:19
No 2020-07-15 17:59
No 2020-07-19 18:34

Round 1

Yes No Refuse to arbitrate Pending
2 5 0 0
Round 1 Vote Casting Date
Yes 2020-07-25 03:20
No 2020-07-27 19:40
Yes 2020-07-21 15:16
No 2020-07-22 18:08
No 2020-07-22 13:39
No 2020-07-26 05:57
No 2020-07-21 15:25


Evidences provided by Vagarish

Evidence #1:

Rules Violation The rules are VERY explicit. Please view my attachment. The rules state that submissions "should not be....mainly fake interactions" and say the following: "Reject: The submitter paid for views of its YouTube video." This submitter has plain as day paid in crypto to a bot service to get fake interactions. This is a rules violation and whether or not the meme qualifies otherwise is a red herring argument "A red herring is something that misleads or distracts from a relevant or important question. It may be either a logical fallacy or a literary device that leads readers or audiences toward a false conclusion."

Evidence #2:

Submitted as a meme It can be understood that this content is submitted as just a meme, as titled "Meme" and argued from the beginning it was meant to be submitted under the meme condition and should be accepted as a meme. A tweet had to be made to get the media hosting and anyone can interact however they want with that tweet. In this case, the meme image is hosted there where there is only a meme: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eckw1jmWsAA6Spu?format=jpg&name=large Any post can be subject to suspicious interactions or attacks for rejection (third-party interference was reported in the Kleros juror chat). Cctip was used in good faith, based on a DeversiFi's positive thought of it (screenshot submitted before), and it would be unfair to reject the meme altogether, or even reject there were at least 50 authentic views (stats submitted before) by just assuming they are mainly fake. This submission should be added.

Evidence #3:

Answering to 0xC0e4...EA5b The content is submitted as a tweet and should be judged as such. If the content had been submitted as just the meme, I would have voted to add it. The rules are clear about not adding content with mainly fake interactions. To me, CCTIP is just one thing. There is enough evidence to question all the interactions of the twitter account. Just look at the ratio and stability of retweets/ likes and the handles of the accounts involved. Imagine the following scenario. This list could well be used to give away something as a promotion. Maybe the hosts would like to differentiate between content even within the standard impact list for impact. Just a meme could be worth less in terms of impact than a tweet with social interaction. So the hosts would decide to give a tweet a higher chance of winning than just a meme. Would it now be fair to have added a tweet with mainly fake interactions to the guy who made just a meme? In short, it violates the rules, distorts reality, and should not be added.

Evidence #4:

Who cares if some interactions are suspicious because the meme condition is met The new juror who voted to not add this meme has voted to add another submission that’s a very simple gif posted on gifs.com: http://kleroscan.com/juror/0x8b26c150F0e4870511d142a5636d7E529a2CBbbf So that’s how it works? Accept a very simple gif (not even a meme) without information on interactions, but reject a meme because the submitter wanted to tip some DOGE, which a DeversiFi admin thought was fine? No. Unlike that basic gif, there is *not* even any need for interactions for memes only, which take more creative efforts by the way. There is no point in rejecting a meme by looking into interactions when the meme is eligible *alone*. The restriction on fake interactions makes sense if there is a condition on minimum interactions. In those cases, as long as the minimum of interactions (in this case 0) is not mainly fake, it should be enough for acceptance, because any post can be subject to suspicious interactions or attacks for rejection. The other jurors of this round or appeal should accept this meme.

Evidence #5:

mainly fake interactions mainly fake interactions Watch retweets Many bots without subscribers or just a few https://twitter.com/cryptoselfmemes/status/1281609537527713793/retweets

Evidence #6:

Memes require no interactions and the interactions are mainly unpaid Dear Jurors: 1) “Accept submissions that: … Are memes related to DeversiFi or its ecosystem.” Memes alone without a requirement on interactions are eligible. They have a long life of impact because of replication. 2) Although not necessary, only 5 retweets were rewarded with DOGE out of fun and for initial diffusion. The meme has more than the double of 5 RTs, so it would not be “mainly fake interactions”. By the way, Ben at DeversiFi has said “I think cctip.io is fine”: https://ibb.co/fGM3spV 3) The meme was printed way more than 50 times, so it may qualify under that condition too. Such impressed: https://ibb.co/Qbw58b7 Submitted much respectfully.

Evidence #7:

Challenge Justification Submissions shouldn't be made of mainly fake interactions. ex: "Reject: The submitter paid for views of its YouTube video." The tweet uses @cctip_io service, which distributes reward to users that interact with the tweet, which is akin to paid interactions.
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